This is my second set of Protaper 20/20 bars. They work brilliantly for everything from XC to gnarly downhill/enduro trails, especially with Ergon or SQLab grips. I just demo’d a Yeti SB130 with 8 degree bars for 2 weeks, suffering constant wrist pain, and the difference in comfort and control with the 20 degree bars is massive. And they are still significantly better than my 12 and 16 degree bars on my other bikes. The only hassle is mounting lights due to the angled segments. Just like long slack bike frames, this is a geometry change that should become universal - bars should all be 12+ degrees!